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I agree that there are a lot of gadgets that come with new cars that just expensive toys at best. Just add to the cost and complexity. Though, some are nice to have. The back view monitor is nice, especially when backing the boat of a mini van we settled on. Being able to open and close windows while driving is nice too but not necessary. Lived fine without this feature in my first several cars. Keyless entry is really nice; we wish we had it for the house. But, as you mention, there are safety issues. And when there is a problem, as we had both of our keys stop working at the same moment, it is not easy to use the safety key and the repair is not cheap. We got rid of our last car, which we loved, because of electronic issues. First the airbag control system went out. ¥70,000 repair. The idiot light for it came back on just weeks after getting it repaired. Then we had the key issue. Mechanically sound but the electronics were shot. A bit of a waste, really, to have to get a new car when the old one is mechanically fit.

While shopping for a new car, we looked at customized Toyota Pro Boxes. We camp and these cars are popular with outdoorsy folk as they can haul a ton of stuff. Look quite nice with a lift kit and the other additions. However, they are originally built as commercial fleet cars and lack many of these electronic features, no big problem, and creature comforts for those sitting in the back. The back seat is like the hard bench seats of pick up trucks in the 70s. Wife worried about the kids sitting back there on long trips. While at a dealership, the ten year old was sitting in the back and asked, “Daddy, what is this?”. I looked at what he was pointing at and laughed. Called my wife and the salesman over and had them ask again. They too laughed. Poor kid, asked why every one was laughing. It was the crank for the manual window. At ten, he had never seen one nor had any idea that such a thing ever existed.

The wife bought the mini van second hand. The original owner added a lot of fancy extras that we would not have gotten if we brought new. Among these are radio controls on the steering wheel. This I like a lot. One of my rants against technologically revenge deals with touch screen controlled radios in cars. I still think that the old two dial and preset buttons of old car radios superior but like that a I do not need to take my eyes off the road to adjust the volume or radio tuner.

The car you used in the States had a lot of monitoring that you and I do not like. Do you know if that was due to just that State’s regulations/laws or is that a nation wide thing?

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Simple answer to why US auto makers no longer produce inexpensive vehicles for small budgets, the powers that be do not want just anybody to be driving.

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